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lea

How do I get to read the above article?



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We'd love to thank Joe Hyams for his wonderful answers and our audience for their insightful questions. Thanks for joining us and we look forward to our next time.



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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

This has been an incredible experience - thank you MySababa and to each of you for thoughtful questions and for giving me plenty to think about too. It's 11:30pm in Jerusalem, I'll sign off with an invite to reach out to us with any further questions (action@honestreporting.com). Please follow us on Twitter @honestreporting and Facebook/Honestreporting. Here's a final thought on how you can become a part of the greatest grassroots community working for Israel today and for fair news coverage tomorrow. Shalom from Israel, and goodnight. ____ Why HonestReporting.com? We believe Israel deserves fair treatment in the news. We know public opinion is shaped by the media. We empower the grassroots to respond to media bias.Join 150,000 others demanding fair media coverage for Israel:honestreporting.com/start/



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benadam

Thank you for doing what you do. Please consider junking the organization and efforts known as Hasbarah, a colossal, chronic failure. Israel could, Israel should recognize the media as a battlefield and engage her enemies with same acumen and seriousness with which El Al is guarded and the professionalism with which the IDF defends Israel.


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

I'm not sure I fully understand your recommendation but agree that 'hasbarah' as an operational philosophy is dated and was at best limited when ranged against a strategic threat. Our work is smart, focused, and directed at outcomes and not sentiment. I believe educating news consumers for Communications Literacy is as vital as Israel and Jewish Literacy will prove to our communal future.




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charlene

Honest Reporting is the best site I have found so far to provide answers for the anti-semitic infiltration of social media. We need crisp and punchy links to post in defense of Israel and Zionism. I am searching for a response to the weaponized grievances about the USS Liberty. Page after page of Google searches turn up more of the same--no good responses yet. To me, it makes no sense to imagine Israel made a deliberate and malicious attack on an ally. (Or were we/America an ally?)


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

Charlene - this is important. DM me and I'll give you the time you deserve on this.




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pbnmaine

PM Netanyahu was quoted today as saying that Israel had defeated the BDS movement. Do you agree? And in light of the recently released AMCHA report identifying anti-Semitism and BDS as growing concerns on campuses, should we believe the PM, or should we be concerned about the campus environment?


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BDS is real. BDS has not been defeated. Yet my Prime Minister spoke, I believe, of a qualitative turning of the tide that we've seen over the past year and half, in my estimation. As we've recognized those seeking to deny Israel's right to exist through pseudo-economic and cultural isolation, we've invested in time and resource to stem the influence and reach of those efforts. The issue has not gone away. It isn't new and will continue to morph through time, under different names, so long as people hate Jews and by extension Zionists. But we see them now, in their current form, and I've been a part of several forums where real progress and individual successes have been celebrated to defeat their aims. Now we need to replicate and scale those insights - this I expect was behind The Prime Minister's sentiment. So, be concerned - absolutely. But believe we are seeing a way forward.




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Great question seld. I'm going to qualify my answer be reminding us all that what we consider 'media' today looks very different in both format and frequency to 1948. With that said, consider that In its early years, Israel was treated as the plucky little David fighting for survival against the Goliath of the Arab world. In more recent years, there has been a perceived role reversal where Israel has been seen as the Goliath against the Palestinians. In addition, the Palestinians have been very effective over the decades at promoting their narrative, which has become the dominant one. We saw major shifts in these areas post 1967 following the Six Day War and following the 1982 Operation, to become known as the First Lebanon War. I highly recommend the book Making David into Goliath by Dr Muravchick (last month's



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charlene

I don't know how this live link works. Is there an audio track? All I see is a growing list of questions. Where are the responses?


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Hi Charlene... our apologies. For now, reload the page and scroll down to see Joe's answers surrounded by a yellow box and a star that says Guest Speaker next to his name. Thanks for tuning in! (There is no audio track, all questions and answers are typed)




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Coming at it from the other side... do you feel that sometimes you go "over the top"... that perhaps you are just looking for confirmation bias in *some* instances of poor coverage of Israel?


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We all have biases, and being aware of them is key to avoiding them. With that said, I'm confident that our process of news review is mindful to not work too hard to find that which isn't there.



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Let me say further, if you feel we've reached on any given story, let us know at action@honestreporting.com. I think we must all, especially media monitors, be open to feedback. I'm personally fascinated by the way we see the world and how biases and heuristics impact us all. I know that when journalists deny their susceptibility to bias they are most likely to fall foul of it. I've written about that here, and would love your thoughts. http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1849/feeling_judgemental_think_twiceAnd http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-foreign-press-corps-dangerous-blind-spot/




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spaz

What's your take on the controversy surrounding Sheldon Adelson's free paper in Israel? Given the political nature of newspapers there (like Europe) is it sort of against the social contract to give news away for free and therefore floor the market with one viewpoint?


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

I'm from the UK originally, and remember well the arrival of 'Metro', the free daily circulated across public transport networks to the chagrin of many competitors. In that regard I am not overly concerned with 'Yisrael Hayom' in so far as I value a free market of news products and recognize plenty of other external parties investing in competing interests to sell news and opinion to Israeli's. In fact I suspect had Adelson not have been the individual behind the paper, less of a storm would have occurred. That in itself merits some reflection by those who jumped to object.




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theboots

I already get your newsletter. Is HR your fulltime job?


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You bet! It's 10:30pm here in Jerusalem, and I'm loving every moment of every day I get to do my small part for Israel. Thanks for being a subscriber, you make it worth our while. Others can subscribe for free at www.honestreporting.com/start or facebook/honestreporting




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graylok

thx Joe. do you also combat bias IN Israeli newspapers.. Haaretz, etc?


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

Thanks graylock, and this answer is also for you bibs (below): The simple answer is 'yes, selectively'. I'm always conscious of our goal in closing the perceptual gap I mentioned in response to 'themodel' which for the most part keeps us focused on major news networks, press and outlets that impact public opinion and in turn foreign policy towards Israel. Giving Israeli outlets more coverage overseas through our community is something we do when for example that Israeli outlet becomes the very source of a major western news outlet. As the oxygen is already there, we'll be sure to call out both the Israeli source and the western outlet. You mention Haaretz, so let me share a couple links with you that make the above point by example. http://honestreporting.com/haaretz-creates-non-existent-apartheid-state/http://honestreporting.com/haaretz-apartheid-clarification-too-little-too-late/




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MySababa would like to introduce Joe Hyams from HonestReporting.com. Joe is here to tell us some more about the media bias surrounding Israel in various publications around the world. Welcome Joe, thanks for being here!


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

Great to be here! Thanks so much for having me, and my thanks too @cjpIsrael and @Israel360. I'll do my best to cover as many questions as possible, and to those I don't get to please feel free to connect guests with me offline, or drop me an email to action@honestreporting.com. OK, let's get to work on these superb questions.




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albuquerq

Joe, in your opinion, are the columnists or the editors more at fault?


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

Thanks albuquerq - Columnists by definition are publishing their opinions and, while we can still hold them to account for inaccuracies or demonizing Israel, ultimately it is clear that these are opinions and not necessarily facts. Many news outlets are mirrors of the editors in charge. So it’s their decisions to publish anti-Isarel columnists and it’s their decisions as to what stories to publish. We’ve seen plenty of times where it is apparent that the journalists on the ground in Israel aren’t necessarily unprofessional or anti-Israel but their newspapers display a level of antagonism towards Israel that comes directly from the editorial team in head office.




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womenfirst

I am excited for this!! can you discuss the motivations of the newspapers some more?


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

There is a ton of great material on this, and with time upon us let's connect direct? Start with www.honestreporting.com and we'll go from there!




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What are some trigger words or phrases that indicate bias? Anything particular to look out for?


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

Love this question, touches on the very important issue of language in news coverage. Always look out for “Palestinian eyewitnesses said…” It should ring alarm bells as to the accuracy of what is being told. Too many technical words are thrown around without any context. Israel is accused of being “disproportionate” without giving any explanation about what that really means under the accepted laws of war. Likewise claiming that settlements are a breach of international law is technically inaccurate. There is one school of thought that interprets international law in this way but there is also a competing narrative. The US does not take the view of the legalities of settlements but instead opposes them as being “unhelpful.” Other phrases could be “Occupied Territories” instead of “disputed territories.” Calling the IDF “Israeli Occupation Forces” comes straight out of the Palestinian lexicon.Please take a look at Red Lines where we discuss this. https://www.amazon.com/Red-Lines-HonestReportings-Categories-Media-ebook/dp/B01BLFPD1I?ie=UTF8




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themodel

Are "conservative" US papers better?


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Unfortunately, most of the problems Israel is facing in the media today come from liberals and left-wingers. Given that Israel has a record in areas such as women's rights, gay rights, minority rights, press freedom and democracy that compares favorably to most Western nations, this shouldn’t have to be the case. But yes, conservative papers are generally better on Israel or at least express a greater understanding of Israel’s security dilemmas.




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promisedland

Joe, thanks for the AMA. I saw this on Twitter... My question is about the media bias. I heard once that media send their journalists because they know controversial Israeli headlines get viewers. So my question is how much did you think these headlines and stories are anti-Semitic and how much are they just business as usual for media?


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While there is anti-Semitism out there, it’s far too simplistic to claim that this is the driving force behind the coverage. Most bad coverage is down to a mixture of ignorance and the inability of the journalists to see beyond the narrow framing of the issue that they have been brought up with. Too often, everything that goes on here is viewed through a prism of black and white with no shades of grey whereby Israel is the aggressor and the Palestinians are the victims. Unfortunately, even if the intent is not anti-Semitic, it can sometimes trigger anti-Semitic sentiments.




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intef

In which countries do you even operate? I assume al jazeera is t likely to listen to you...


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HonestReporting covers all major English language markets e.g. US, UK, Canada, South Africa. We also have our recently launched HR Down Under focusing specifically on Australia and New Zealand. Even more recently we launched HR Brazil for the Portuguese speaking market. We also have affiliates in Canada and Latin America. http://reportehonesto.comCheck out our latest site! http://honestreporting.com/defendendo-israel-da-midia-tendenciosa/




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iadv

Do you have advice for journalists covering complex issues related to Israel/the conflict, such as how to cover issues related to settlements or settlement building, price tag attacks, etc. Without showing that there's a comparison between Palestinian incitement - condoned by Palestinian leaders and institutions - and actions of a few fringe people on Israel, how should a reporter attempt to strike the always-needed "balance" in an article about Israel?


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

Important question iadv, not sure I can answer fully here, but on the issue of balance let me say that balance isn’t necessarily what makes a decent report. It implies that both sides are equal when in fact Israeli countermeasures should not be treated as morally equivalent to Palestinian terrorism. Journalists need to recognize the many barriers to fair, accurate and contextual coverage in so far as language, cultural and other barriers exist before they even arrive into the politically and ideologically charged landscape. We've created a major program called MediaCentral to assist in a functional and logistical way, those news makers looking for support and guidance to ensure they can output their work to the highest standards. It's a tough job, but more than anything we want to see them succeed. Not that journalists should be reflexively pro-Israel, just great journalists!




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lozier

which media sites/pubs are the worst offenders? why if you know it?


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

Thanks Lozier. We concentrate on mainstream media as these are the outlets that have the most widespread reach and influence. Every year we produce the Dishonest Reporter of the Year Award, the most recent winner being the BBC for a number of particularly shocking anti-Israel incidents during 2015. http://honestreporting.com/dishonest-reporter-awards/ Other winners over the years have included the New York Times. Generally we’ve found that the British press is worse than the US press. The Guardian and Independent spring to mind.




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theuse

Why do the media sites ever actually change stuff based on your investigations? If people don't care, why do they listen to you?


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Good question, and goes some way to answering those who wonder if media set out to skew reality intentionally. Absolutely they change stuff as we've seen. Media outlets still want to be seen to be doing a professional job and we’ve prompted countless numbers of corrections over the years. Reputation is the currency on which media trade, and calling credibility to account warrants a response. Most professionals are comfortable making change when called out. Plus it isn’t just HonestReporting that is forcing the media to listen. It’s the thousands of regular media consumers who send their complaints and write letters to the editors based on our analyses of media bias. That's why savvy news consumers are key to raising industry standards. This is why our educational work through our Red Lines Guide to being a Savvy News Consumer is a powerful tool, available to everyone who cares to raise their own level of knowledge on how news is shaped (and misshaped). http://honestreporting.com/news-literacy/




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themodel

how did you get into this? thanks!


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joehyams_honestreporting Star Guest Speaker

I often wonder! Seriously, I come from a marketing and advertising background, and found myself assigned to various clients in Israel around the year 2000. In the years ahead I became fascinated by the perceptual gap between what Israel was, and what the world believed her to be. I had a conscience perhaps, and knowing how communication can manipulate people's thoughts and feelings (about what to buy, what to like...) I couldn't ignore the same being used by some to disenfranchise Israel and her citizens. Most of all I saw a gap in people's own awareness as news consumers, of the effects of bias on their own identity and affinity for Israel. It was unfair, and I was fortunate to meet this incredible opportunity to take my professional experience and turn it, I hope, into something positive for the wider community. I believe that good journalism serves more than just Israel, and that begins with informing the grassroots and calling the media to account. That's how I got into this, 11 years ago this month!


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spaz

Happy anniversary!


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Thanks! If I work hard enough, I hope there will be no need for our efforts in the future. Together let's go for it!






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angrylatin

why do you think in the image they actually wrote the truth in the sub headline? why even write it at all if they were being biased? just curious


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dsel

That's a great question.


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I should answer further and say that under the pressure of getting the story 'live' the media have some facts known, some unclear. If a person is shot and remains dead on the scene, that is a firm leader for the story. If the injured are taken from the scene then media may demote focus on that until the events are known. I don't think this excuses the rush to publish, and media have an obligation to communicate intent and not just outcomes of the parties especially when the viewer or reader needs that context to make sense of the full story. After all, it is the only window on the event the end reader has, so it has to be accurate and communicate well - or not at all. Our Red Lines chapters including the one on Missing Context is here, so you can learn more on this: http://honestreporting.com/news-literacy-the-eight-categories-of-media-bias/




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Many times over the past several months we’ve seen headlines that did not accurately reflect the reality nor the actual story that accompanied them. The journalists who write the stories aren’t responsible for writing the headlines, which are created by editors who don’t necessarily have a full understanding of the issue.




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zman

Is there an example of a story that was critical of Israel that you think is fair?


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Thanks Zman. There are plenty of stories that are critical of Israel that are fair. Nobody is saying that Israel should be immune from criticism. But that criticism should be constructive and not become demonization. Israel makes mistakes like every country in the world. All we ask is that Israel is not treated according to double standards. Unfortunately, with so many journalists covering Israel, every mistake, however major or minor, is magnified in a way that most other countries are not subjected to. The question then becomes one of obsessive focus on Israel's shortcomings, despite the integrity of any given news report with regards to the facts and events it speaks to.




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zman

Do you think anti-Israel bias is conscious? if it is, do you think editors care that their reporters aren't being objective?


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We all carry biases, and at times people may feel so passionately about something as to allow those biases to color their vision. If you are a news reporter tasked with bringing an unfiltered report from a location, you may or may not be aware of those biases impacting your work. But whichever the case, you are duty bound as a professional to be on guard and be open to critique. That'a why we are here, around the clock keeping watch.



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Zman I should also note that bias at times is a meta-outcome of several stories, or reporters or even news outlets. For example, the horrendous terror attacks in Europe last week when compared/contrast with attacks in Israel made for a very unbalanced 'big picture'. The bias on the broader scale, or over time requires serious investment to track and identify inconsistency in media behavior. This short video on the attacks I mentioned is approaching a quarter million views, because the bias is so blatant, and I think we've made it so clear. I'm proud to get this work out beyond our own subscriber base, so everyday folks can understand the power of media to shape our views, and betray them especially on Israel. Let me know what you think! http://honestreporting.com/video-stabbing-in-germany-stabbing-in-israel-why-the-double-standard/




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bibs

Maybe a dumb question, but have you ever compelled an Israeli news source to retract/correct? Some people think the Israeli media outlets on the far right/far left can be just as bad as The Guardian/al-Jazeera, etc.



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seld

Is anti-Israel media bias getting worse or pretty much the same since the state's formation?



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molly

Is there a single (non-Arab) news outlet that is consistently rates as your most biased in covering Israel? Not editorial page, but coverage. Thanks!



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Dubious facts, downright distortions and double standards - welcome to the Israel beat. What does anti-Israel media bias look like? How do you spot it? What can you do about it? Joe Hyams, CEO of HonestReporting, an organization that exposes media bias around the world and raises public awareness in order to drive change, will join MySababa live from Jerusalem for an Ask Me Anything, this Wednesday, July 27 at 3:00 pm.



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